Please note, this document is prepared as a response to internal questions,
and does not reflect the usual style of MM Summaries.

Thanks to all for your wonderful input; and to the appropriate vendors for
making evaluation copies available quickly and easily over the Net. I am
sure that at least one group will purchase DAVE to address this need. Other
groups are apparently following the usual "wait until it breaks" process.

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AppleTalk traffic on the KCWAN consists of:
1. AFP - AppleShare - file services
2. PAP - - print services
3. NBP - - naming services
4. ARA - Remote Access - dial-in services
5. Other services (retrospect, timbuktu)
6. Exchange

Executive Summary
At this time, Apple Computer does not have a detailed program for migrating
existing AppleTalk-based services to IP-based services. However, they are
adding this functionality to existing software on an on-going basis.

All general-purpose AppleTalk based services on the KCWAN can be replaced
with IP based services. Depending on which services are necessary, and the
scale of the transfer, this can be accomplished for either little cost or
low-moderate cost; either across the board on on a case-by-case basis. The
primary constraint is how current the hardware/software in use is, both for
workstations and servers, as this determines if it can support new
functionality with an minor upgrade or requires major replacement..

Minimum cost solution:
‡ Upgrade all Macintoshes to at least MacOS 7.5.
‡ Provide LaserWriter 8.5.1 for all Macintoshes that need off-LAN print
services.
‡ Provide AppleShare Client 3.7.2 for all Macintoshes that need off-LAN
file services.
‡ Require LAN Admins to upgrade servers to support Macintosh-over-IP
connectivity (exact options depending on the type of server and other
requirements)
‡ Scheulde AT routing phase-out

Maximum flexibility solution:
‡ Site-License/Bulk-License DAVE 2.0
For all NT-server based users
‡ Site-License/Bulk-License intraNetWare Client for MacOS
For all Novell-server based users
‡ Site-License/Bulk-License Personal ShareWay IP
For all Personal File Sharing users
‡ Replace existing AppleShare Servers with new IP-transport servers
(AppleShare IP; or intraNetWare; or Windows NT)
‡ Replace existing PathWorks Server with new IP-transport server
(AppleShare IP; or intraNetWare; or Windows NT)
‡ Upgrade existing Retrospect to IP-transport version
‡ Upgrade exisiting Timbuktu to IP-transport version
‡ Announce end of AT routing additions, with existing services to be
eventually discontinued.
‡ The AppleTalk Universe
A network survey on 1/30/98 revealed that at present there are
approximately 500 AppleTalk devices on the KCWAN. They break down by
operation system as:

137 Macintosh Computers
17 Macintosh
120 PowerMacintosh
176 Laser Printers
5 DesignJet 650C
3 DeskJet 1200C
6 DeskJet 1600C
2 DeskWriter
1 DeskJet 750
2 Color LaserJet
13 LaserJet 4Si
17 LaserJet 5Si
104 LaserJet 4 (other models)
23 LaserJet 5 (other models)
8 unknown (Ether*Writes)
120 Cisco Router (interfaces)
13 Lantronix (?????)
5 Novell Servers
10 Novell AT Routers
28 Windows NT Servers
1 VAX
1 VAX 4000-300
4 LanRover/E
2 Timbuktu clients
108 Retrospect clients

NOTE: AppleShare Client (ZM-3.7.2) is the current general release.
Requires: MacOS 7.5.3 or later; OpenTransport 1.1.2 or later.

1. File Services
Traditionally, macintoshes have used AppleTalk based file services to share
files between multiple users on a network. Theses services (AppleTalk File
Protocol; AFP) are offered either by a workstation (Personal File Sharing)
or a server (AppleShare File Server; Windows NT Server; NetWare Server with
appropriate NLM; PathWorks for VAX; etc). Existing AFP services can be
replaced with file services that use IP-based transport in part or in total.

A network survey on 1/27/98 revealed that at present there are 122 AFP
servers available on the KCWAN. They break down by operation system as:

81 Macintosh - Personal File Sharing
16 MacOS 7.0
65 MacOS 7.5
4 Macintosh - AppleShare
3 AppleShare 3
1 AppleShare 4
14 Novell
22 Windows NT
1 VAX
Solutions
A. AppleShare IP
http://www.apple.com/
Provides access to AppleShare5 servers (AFP) over either AppleTalk or IP
transport.
Requires PowerMacintosh server hardware (PPC 601 or 604/604e); AppleShare
5.0 or later; AppleShare Client 3.7 or later.
Licensing: AppleShare IP 5.0 per-server $1299.
Pro:
Con: does not address Novell or NT servers; new hardware; server upgrade
hassles;

B. DAVE
http://www.thursby.com/
Provides complete replacement for AFP with regard to Windows file
services (both standard and Macintosh) using NetBIOS-over-IP transport.
Requires MacOS 7.5 or later; 68020 or better CPU; NT 3.51/Win95 or above
(WFW with Microsoft TCP/IP driver).
Licensing: per-client; about $119 for 1; $4999 for 100.
Pro: client-based;
Con: does not address Apple or Novell servers;

C. ShareWay IP
http://www.opendoor.com/gateway/
Provides translation between AFP and IP. Can run on (Macintosh) server,
and use IP for all transport; or can run on a separate Macintosh using AFP
to server and IP to client.
Requires MacOS 7.5.3 or later; AppleShare Client 3.7 or later; 68020 or
better CPU.
Licensing:
Server Edition: per-server; about $100 for 1; $899 for 5.
Personal Sharing Edition: per-machine; $79 for 1; $299 for 5.
Pro: addresses Apple, Novell (IP), or NT servers; client-based;
Con:

D. intraNetWare Client for MacOS
D. intraNetWare Client for MacOS

http://www.novell.com/intranetware/products/clients/clientmac/climc_pf.html
Provides full access to NetWare4 servers over either IPX or IP transport.
Requires MacOS 7.1 or later; 68030 or better CPU; NetWare 4 or above.
Licensing:
Pro: client-based;
Con: does not address Apple or NT servers;

E. Windows NT Server 5.0
<not released yet>
Expected to provide access to NT5 servers over either AppleTalk or IP
transport.
Requires ??? (AppleShare Client 3.7.2 or later)
Licensing: ???
Pro:
Con: does not address Apple or Novell servers;

2. Print Services
Traditionally, macintoshes have used AppleTalk based print services to
access shared printers on a network. Theses services (Printer Access
Protocol; PAP) are offered either by a a printer (independent network
printer) or a print queue on a server (AppleShare Print Server; Windows NT
Server; NetWare Server with appropriate NLM; PathWorks for VAX; etc).
Existing PAP services can be replaced with print services that use IP-based
transport in part or in total.

Solutions
A. LaserWriter 8.5.1
http://www.apple.com/
Provides access to IP-configured printers via LPR protocol.
Requires MacOS7.5 to 7.6.1 (not supported under MacOS8 yet?).
Requires one of these LaserWriter models:
8500; 16/600 PS; 12/640 PS; Color 12/600 PS; Color 12/660 PS
or appropriate HP-product (test HP5Si)
Licensing: standard Apple.
Pro:
Con: may not address all models of printer;

B. DAVE
http://www.thursby.com/
Provides complete replacement for PAP with regard to Windows print queues
using NetBIOS-over-IP transport.
Requires MacOS 7.5 or later; 68020 or better CPU; NT 3.51/Win95 or above
(WFW with Microsoft TCP/IP driver).
Licensing: per-client; about $119 for 1; $4999 for 100.
Pro: client-based;
Con: does not address non-Windows print queues;

C. intraNetWare Client for MacOS
C. intraNetWare Client for MacOS

http://www.novell.com/intranetware/products/clients/clientmac/climc_pf.html
Provides full access to NetWare4 print queues over either IPX or IP
transport.
Requires MacOS 7.1 or later; 68030 or better CPU; NetWare 4 or above.
Licensing:
Pro: client-based;
Con: does not address non-Novell print queues; requires NetWare4 servers;

3. Name Services
Traditionally, Macintoshes have used AppleTalk based name services to
locate shared resources on a network. Theses services (Name Binding
Protocol; NBP) are supported by all properly configured AppleTalk devices.
Existing NBP services are replaced with naming services that use IP-based
transport when those resources are accessed using IP-based services.
These replacements consist primarily of DNS; however Novell-specific
solutions may also support/use NDS-type naming services; and
Windows-specific solutions may also rely on WINS-based naming services.
Each of the solutions above takes advantage of one or more of these
replacements.

4. Dial-in Services
Traditionally, Macintoshes have used AppleTalk based dial-in services to
access remote networks. Theses services (AppleTalk Remote Access; ARA) are
offered by some form of dial-in server (LanRover, etc). Existing ARA
services can be replaced with dial-in services that use IP-based transport
in part or in total.
The existing out-sourcing arrangement with Access One should provide full
PPP-based IP-transport dial-in facilities. Each of the solutions provides a
way for Macintoshes to access network services remotely over a PPP connection.

5. Other Services
Traditionally, Macintoshes have used AppleTalk based services to access a
variety of other shared resources on a network. Theses services (Timbuktu,
Retrospect, etc) are offered either on a peer-to-peer basis or by a server.
Existing services of this sort can general be can be upgrade to services
that use IP-based transport in part or in total.
The existing products (Timbuktu and Restrospect) both offer IP-based
versions.

Timbuktu for MacOS 4.0.2
http://www.netopia.com/software/tb2/mac/spec.htm
Requires: 68020 or better; MacOS 7.5 or later
Cost: $189 for 2

Retrospect
http://www.dantz.com/dantz_products/clients_4_macs.html
Requires: PowerPC CPU; OpenTransport
Cost: $500 for server & 10 clients

Benjamin k Grossman
"Are we having fun yet?" --- Zippy